[griff]

in this format, just an example,tim and i will give alex and dan, who won spring valley dubs, 21 extra throws. perrigo and Mcoin 21 extra throws, and bart and cory 42 extra throws. handicap or crippling? i'm assuming this is eric and neals baby, you two are smart guys, THERE HAS GOT TO BE A BETTER FORMAT! for the most part i believe day before a tourney dubs is used as a way for out of town players to get a chance to look at a course and play with some locals under competitive circumstances, and maybe make a little change doin it. and also for some locals to see how they stack up against different players. this dubs tourny may be unsanctioned, but it is in direct association with a major event, don't make this a carnival sideshow.