Originally Posted by ERicJ
And I think a lot of players who've never been involved in the details of running a tournament think the same way.
And this is why Birdshot (or any of the many other organizations running PDGA tournaments) is okay by the letter of the PDGA law in claiming 100% payout (after deducting fees).
I'm still debating this myself on how to best handle it. As I posted above it's a tradeoff of simplicity for the majority vs. the devil in the details for a vocal minority.
I have been involved in the details of running such a tournament - and even knowing the mechanics behind the PDGA calculation of payout percentage (what gets included and not) doesn't change the fact that if it is advertised that there is 100% payout, then the expectation is there that all entry fees are going into payout. That seems like a reasonable assumption on the part of anyone reading that "100%" part.
If the PDGA and facility fees aren't being covered by external sponsorship somehow, and those fees are deducted from the entry fee, then it is misleading to claim that it is 100% payout. The only way to be able to make that claim is separate the entry fee from the rest of the fees. That way, you CAN legitimately claim 100% entry fee payout and still wash the PDGA/facility fees separately.
There is a common definition (and understanding of) 100 percent. There is NOT a common understanding of the way that the PDGA calculates their payout percentage and what their definition of 100% payout is. And right there is where the breakdown in understanding occurs.
IMHO it would seem best to avoid making the claim of 100% payout if you plan on deducting anything from the entry fee. It avoids any opportunity for misunderstanding. Birdshot doesn't need to advertise "100% payout" in order to attract attendees. As soon as it does get advertised however, most folks are going to interpret it as every dollar I pay for entry fee (which is the definition of 100%) is going into payout.
If you just don't make that 100% claim, then you don't risk the chance of ruffling anyone's feathers about it. Then you don't have to do so much of that old "bob n weave" jazz.