King me in Kingwood Aug 9th, 2008

[Midnightbiker]

This is going to be a interesting tournament with all the challenges that Kingwood offers. Hope to see everyone there. It shouldn't be too hot will all the tress out there offering shade. 90% of the course is in the shade.

[scoot_er]

I just looked at the calendar and it looks like I won't be able to make it to see what everyone thinks of the course.

[cosmococciccosmodemonic]

Kingwood is now officially on the PDGA calendar and should be up at TitleDisc later today. Can't wait to see everyone there...

[scoot_er]

Originally Posted by cosmococciccosmodemonic

Kingwood is now officially on the PDGA calendar and should be up at TitleDisc later today. Can't wait to see everyone there...

So it is going to be sanctioned? I thought this was one of the "mini" events.

[cosmococciccosmodemonic]

Originally Posted by scoot_er

So it is going to be sanctioned? I thought this was one of the "mini" events.

This event is a sanctioned C-Tier and we would love to have another Open Player join the play at Kingwood.

[scoot_er]

Originally Posted by cosmococciccosmodemonic

This event is a sanctioned C-Tier and we would love to have another Open Player join the play at Kingwood.

I don't know about that! Unless the course has changed you may want no open players because they might all complain like I have about that course.

I'll be in Kalamazoo that weekend anyway.

[Mr. Blue]

I have to disagree. I think that the pitfall here has been that there may be more questionable venues for some of these events. I think that the turnouts point to this. The better venues have enjoyed full tournaments. There are some concepts like preregistration, card arrangements, and yes divisions, which have cause some problems from experienced people.
I for one like the Birdshot events as they do offer ANY player the opportunity to play in a LOCAL SANCTIONED EVENT! I think that this is where the heart of the matter lies. We used to have tournament events in Houston, and then they all went away for one reason or another. One group retired, one group just didn't follow through, and one group screwed some people. This is just the short list. Birdshot has committed none of these sins. I learned a new phrase this weekend in MI. "AMSCAM" was a term used by a lot of people when describing events. The term was explained to me, and from what I can tell, that is NOT what we have here. I do believe that Birdshot innocently suffers from inexperience. I think that we as a group need to support them with the understanding that improvements follow. I'm sure these guys could write a book on what they'll do better or different NEXT year. Shoot, they have even made changes needed from one tournament to the next!
The TD clinic is a good idea, as it may be the START of some future TDs in the area. I would recommend some experienced TDs step up and volunteer to participate in this clinic. I don't think that anybody coming to or from this clinic should go out and claim expert status afterwards, but it may at the very least answer some commonly misunderstood questions like "why do tournaments start late, or why does it take so long at the end of a tournament to wrap things up."
I guess my major concern still remaining is that if there is no Birdshot, then when the hell would we see tournaments in Houston again? These guys don't steal, and never intentionally offend anyone. They are just trying to offer locals a local option for tournaments. Having just paid out the ass for gas to and from Worlds, I can more than appreciate not having to go so far to play in a sanctioned event. Are they running tournaments that you'll read about in FDM? No, but they are running SANCTIONED, LOCAL tournaments. If someone has a better plan for doing so, then I'm all ears. But all I've heard has been crickets on the matter.

[LOU18132]

Billy it wasn't a slam I just found humor in it, If you knew me you would see that. As for the type of person I am, you have not a clue. I agree with MrBlue maybe that is why I don't play Birdshot tourneys. All I ask is that you get your facts straight before you spout off Billy. Oh and 355 I never said a word about glorified minis.